Skip to main content

My Miniature Schnauzer's Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease

  • Author:
  • Updated date:
Baby, my Miniature Schnauzer, has had to see the vet three different times for herniated discs. With the right medication, she seems to be doing better.

Baby, my Miniature Schnauzer, has had to see the vet three different times for herniated discs. With the right medication, she seems to be doing better.

What Is Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease?

This disease is also known as slipped disc, ruptured disc, herniated disc, or prolapsed disc. My veterinarian explained that there are 26 intervertebral discs in the dog’s spinal column. Each disc is similar to a jelly donut and is composed of two distinct regions. These discs act as shock absorbers for the spinal column. When the discs either bulge or burst, they press on the nerves of the spinal column and cause pain.

This can occur in humans as well as animals. The old country people used to call this condition "being down in their back." Some people have chronic back pain because of this problem.

Is the Miniature Schnauzer More Susceptible Than Other Breeds?

In the canine world, intervertebral disc disease is common among dachshunds, cocker spaniels, beagles, and bassets. These breeds have long backs, so, for obvious reasons, they are at a higher risk. It is not that common in the Miniature Schnauzer, but unfortunately, my dog suffers from it.

What Causes Herniated Discs in Dogs?

Any injury to the spinal column can cause this disease. However, certain individuals may be more likely to suffer bulged discs due to genetic predisposition.

This is Baby, my Miniature Schnauzer.

This is Baby, my Miniature Schnauzer.

My Miniature Schnauzer, Baby, Is a Very Active Little Dog

I have a four-year-old Miniature Schnauzer named Baby. I refer to her as "the queen of the house." She is a very active little dog. She loves to play fetch with her ball and likes tug-of-war toys. She is a jumper and likes to hop from the back of the couch onto the floor and jump onto and off of chairs and beds.

She also really likes running up and down the stairs in my house, which are quite steep. She follows me wherever I go; I go up and down my stairs many times during the day, and she always walks right along with me.

Baby enjoys begging for food.

Baby enjoys begging for food.

Baby Has Had 3 Episodes of Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease

We went for a walk one day and were resting on a park bench just watching the cars go by. She suddenly decided to jump down from the bench, which is not at all unusual for her. As soon as she did this, she just sat down. She didn’t want to move. I tried to pick her up, and she let me know something was terribly wrong; she yelped in pain. She refused to walk, so I carried her the four blocks home. By the time I put her on the couch, her entire body was trembling. The veterinarian later told me that this is a sign of pain in dogs.

The next morning, she was not any better. I called my veterinarian, and he said to bring her in right away. During the exam, he ran his fingers up and down her spine and, when he hit the area on the lower back, she yelped and snapped.

After X-rays were taken, he showed them to me and explained that Baby had a herniated disc in the lower back. He said that treatment would consist of complete bed rest, an injection of Dexamethasone, which is used for inflammation in the joints, Dermaxx tablets for pain, and Valium tablets to keep her still and quiet while at home. He warned me that this is often a reoccurring problem—once it happens, it is likely to happen again.

For two weeks, I followed the vet’s advice: no going up and down the stairs, no jumping, etc. I moved the couch up against the wall so she couldn’t jump off the back, which was one of her favorite things to do. I put a vanity bench on the side of my bed so she couldn’t jump up onto the bed. I rearranged everything possible in my house to try to prevent another episode. After two weeks, I couldn’t keep her down. She was her old bouncy, jumping self, running up and down the stairs and playing fetch with her ball.

Baby loves to play tug-of-war.

Baby loves to play tug-of-war.

Things were going along very nicely until two months later when she jumped down from the front of the couch and must have twisted her back. Down she went, and she wouldn’t get up. The trembling began. I knew right away she was in acute pain, and I knew exactly what was wrong. Sure enough, the vet confirmed that she had “thrown her back out” again! He gave her the same treatment as before with the same warning—bed rest, no jumping, no stairs, etc.

She got over this episode in about two weeks. Then, just the other day, she was playing ball in the yard and jumped up to catch the ball. She went down on the ground, whimpering and trembling. I just couldn’t believe this was happening again. We went back to the veterinarian, and he gave me the same diagnosis. He also gave me some stern admonition. Unless I wanted Baby to continue to suffer from this progressive disease, we would have to change our lifestyle.

He said there is a strong likelihood that one day she will experience another episode, after which she might never be able to walk again. He said it was my choice: either I take preventive measures, or Baby would spend a lot of time in pain and in his office.

Surgery may be an option, he said. The surgery is performed to relieve the compression of the spinal cord. She would need to see a neurologist to determine if surgery could be the solution for her problem. That doctor would do a myelogram, a CAT scan, and an MRI, and these would reveal the exact location of the disc causing the problem.

Baby Doesn't Feel Well Today

As I write this, it has been three days since the latest episode. She just lies around with that dull, expressionless look in her eyes. I carry her up and down the stairs, I carry her out into the yard to go to the bathroom, and then I carry her back inside the house. Because she is on Valium, it’s hard to say whether she is lethargic because she feels pain or because the Valium is making her drowsy.

Baby enjoys floating on the raft after her swim.

Baby enjoys floating on the raft after her swim.

Baby's Attempt to Climb the Stairs

I put up a screen in front of the stairs so Baby couldn't follow me. She figured a way to get around the screen and made a vain attempt to go up the stairs. Usually, she runs very fast up and down these stairs, but not now.

My miniature schnauzer is in pain.

My miniature schnauzer is in pain.

What Are My Choices?

Now, this is my dilemma, and I don’t know what to do. I think these are my choices:

  • I could have her see a neurologist for further evaluation.
  • I could take her to a veterinary chiropractor.
  • We could try acupuncture.
  • I could keep her in a dog crate or closely confined.

Baby is very precious to me, and it hurts me so to see her in pain. If I change her lifestyle, what will become of her playfulness, her energy, her excitement when guests come to the door, and her zest for life? She would never be able to do the tricks that she loves to do, like dancing, jumping through the hoop, or begging. She would no longer do the things that might hurt her back. It would be like restraining me and not allowing me to do all the things I want to do. I would be very unhappy, and I think Baby would be unhappy, too.

I have to do a lot of thinking about my options. I know that if I don’t become proactive about this problem, it will probably occur again. If any of you reading this have had a similar experience with your dog, I am open to any advice you may give me.

In the meantime, I'm just trying to keep her quiet, and I'm giving her lots of love and chicken (her favorite). I also keep telling her how sorry I am that she is in pain.

Baby tries to get up the stairs to be with me.

Baby tries to get up the stairs to be with me.

An Update on Baby's Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease

I saw another veterinarian about two months ago to get another opinion. That vet put Baby on Glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate, to be taken once a day. She loves the taste. It's a chewable soft medication. I am sure this medication has helped her canine intervertebral disc disease. It is supposed to help strengthen her bones. I continue to limit her physical activity as much as possible. For now, we seem to have this problem under control.

Another Update on My Dog's Back Problem

I am happy to report that Baby has had no reoccurrence in about six months. I continue to limit her jumping on beds and couches. She continues to take the Glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate once a day, and I really think this medication has strengthened her back.

This article is accurate and true to the best of the author’s knowledge. It is not meant to substitute for diagnosis, prognosis, treatment, prescription, or formal and individualized advice from a veterinary medical professional. Animals exhibiting signs and symptoms of distress should be seen by a veterinarian immediately.

© 2011 Mary Hyatt


The Halls on October 11, 2019:

We are in the exact same scenario as you, except our mini schnauzer's name is Bentley and he is 9 years old. His back issues are exactly as you described for Baby. This started 3 days ago. The doc gave us 5 days worth of the same meds you were given. Bentley keeps looking like hes getting better but then some small awkward movement puts him in the locked position. Is it too early to start him on that Glucosamine/Chondroitin Sulfate? We are just really worried about him.

Sherri on August 28, 2019:

Thank you for your post. I'm really having a hard time with this. I have our girl Lilly and my father's (who passed in 2013) Suzie. Lilly has the issues with her spine, no feeling in her back legs and suffered a week ago with same thing in her neck area. She is on a couple of medications for pain and anti-inflammatory, but is not feeling good today. She has not eaten or drank in two days. Needless to say we have an appt this afternoon. Lilly's sister (same litter) has congestive heart failure, thyroid issue, and arthritis. Common issues for this breed is crystals in their kidneys. Neither of mine have that. However because Suzie has all the issues that she does, it comes along with other things. In the past two months she has had pneumonia due to the fluids around her enlarged heart and a kidney infection. She is on a host of medication. Emotionally it is killing me. Suzie cannot hold her pee, therefore pees where ever and whenever she wants. Lilly is usually my healthier pup. Keeping her down is difficult. I do not know how much more I can take watching their demise. My heart is breaking. :(

Julie on August 03, 2019:

Thank you so much for posting! We recently adopted a 12 week schnoodle puppy who had the exact same behavior as you described after a night of crazy puppy running. We are totally at a loss as to why it happened, but had the exact same experience at the vet, minus the x-rays. We're worried for his prognosis and confused as to why exactly it happened, but you give us hope

David on May 17, 2019:

My dog (mini schnauzer) has problems with this as well and my Dr put him on Galliprant (much like Celebrex for humans) and he’s been doing great. I’ve just controlled his jumping down from couches, beds, etc...

Hope your baby is still doing well!

Macready on December 20, 2018:

Dear all, in case you haven't tried it, cold laser therapy (6 sessions) and Dasquin or Cosequin is a much better, safer and cheaper alternative to surgery. Cold laser SHOULD cost 20/session, although I got ripped off at 40/session before I found it cheaper. Cosequin can be had off Amazon. Good luck to all of your little dogs.

Linsey H. on December 09, 2018:

Thank you for posting this. We are in the throes of our first episode of the same thing with our 8 year old miniature white schnauzer. It is comforting to hear another journey.

Martina Straub on June 08, 2018:

My 9.5 yo wheaten terrier was diagnosed with 3 spots of this on her spine last year. There is a surgical repair (effective on younger dogs, in one spot only) and nothing stopped my beautiful girl's suffering, so I had to let her go across the Rainbow Bridge. I am still completely heartbroken.

Edward on July 04, 2017:

My 9 year old Schnauzer is suffering from the same affliction. Today, being the 4th of July, it is a holiday. That makes everything AFTER HOURS EMERGENCY CLINICS.

Last night we were told we had 2 choices:

1) emergency surgery with 6 week +/- recovery; or,

2) round of steroids & painkillers.

The negative of steroids = should they fail to improve his condition, surgery is not an option until the steroids have completely left his system.

The negative of surgery = IF (if stressed) the surgery works, we either find another home for 2nd dog (the two dogs are best friends and cry without each other) or he spends his 6 wk recovery at the vet's in a body sling.

The vet strongly advised our Labrador find a new home. The dogs have a large variance in size. Add the protective nature of Labradors, she would ultimately cause additional injury, even it was her attempt to protect or help her friend.

(Did I mention the surgery alone would run $10k)

Right now he is resting with a fairly intense drug haze numbing his pain. I am heartbroken but that has to wait. Right now, I must focus on being the best friend I can be to my best friend. I will not let him hurt but I refuse to condemn him to a life with a poor quality.

Sorry for rambling. I suppose this was a therapy session. Baby was a source of hope and I rejoice in your improvement. Thank you.

My Shadow on June 28, 2017:

Shadow couldn't walk this morning. He follows me everywhere. When I got out of bed for coffee - he stayed in. When I crawled back in- he yelled. I put him on the floor and he couldn't walk. Straight to the vet we went. I came home, My Shadow is in the hospital for 48 hours with iv's, steroids and pain meds His

X ray revealed collapsed disc. Shadow, my 9 year old mini schnauszer is my baby. I go only to work without him. Surgery may be required. Our lives have changed. He will be crated while I am away and leashed when I am home because I can't bear him to be in pain. A wheelchair may be in his future Dr. Hodges's says. My baby has taken me through some pretty tough stuff in the last 9 years, always by my side to comfort me. I will do all that I need to do for him so he isn't in pain. We will learn to play on the ground.

Robert on December 11, 2016:

Hey thanks so much for your story of baby girl,. Can you please tell me where you can get the Medicine that you give Baby girl? Please my dog is having the same problems. I really would like to try him on that.. thanks so much again

Cyndi on December 08, 2015:

Hello. I just read your article about Baby's back issues. Just today my Humphrey was diagnosed with the same thing. Two weeks of little to no activity. I even pulled out the crate so I can make sure when I'm not around he's taking it easy. Thank goodness he likes his crate. This is our first bout with this. Thank you so much for posting this. I'm going to ask my vet about the Glucosomine. Any additional advice????

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on June 07, 2015:

Rebecca , good morning. I sincerely thank you for your lovely comment. You really made my day! I am so happy my article about my Min. Schnauzer's experience with Interverbral Disc Disease would find it's way to you and helped you. I continue to give Baby a Glucosomine tablet every night, and I will forever.

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment on my article. Mary

Rebecca on June 06, 2015:

Mary I could just hug you!!!!! I sought out the supplements Baby was treated with. Tyrion has done a 180, & is better than ever. He is my little energetic firecracker again, and it's you and Baby's story that made that happen. I cried as I read Baby's struggle that late night 2 weeks ago. It was hard to see the words through tear filled eyes, & as a schnauzer mom I know you understand. He has had an incredible life thus far surviving 2 prior owners that passed away before he was 9 months old. When I bought him from the family of his last owner he was in bad shape. He was still a pup and suffered loss twice, was shaggy as all get out, but I saw a diamond in the rough. I loved him immeadiantly; my parents bread mini schnauzers for 15 years. I know a beautiful one (they all are really) when I see it. Next day vet check he was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, and it turns out I saved his life. The vet felt he wouldn't be in good shape if left go another week. You would've never known because he doesn't complain and is the SWEETEST boy. Thus making his back issue very difficult to uncover. When I found Baby's story it was like reading the last few months of Tdog's life. I can say with honest conviction you are an angel Mary. Did you ever think sharing Baby's story would make such a huge difference in someone else's life?

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on May 17, 2015:

Rebecca, good moring. How nice to meet another owner of a Min. Schnauzer! Baby continues to do very well as long as I take good care of her (and give her the pill every day. I do not allow her to jump.

Thanks for taking the time to read Baby's story about her back problems, Mary

Rebecca on May 16, 2015:

thank you for the first time I don't feel alone in my quest. tyrion is my mini shnau who turns 4 on 5/22/15, and is the center of my world. he too thanks you for sharing Baby's story. this changed our world; time to schnauzer proof our home.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 01, 2014:

Hi, Kaylee. Oh, my goodness I would not consider putting your dog to sleep before exploring all the avenues! One of the times Baby's back "went out" was when I lifted her out of the bathtub. She must have twisted her back somehow. So, when you took Sofi for a walk, she could have just misstepped and injured her back. I don't think Baby will ever be the same playful dog she was before her first episode, because not I have to limit her activities so she doesn't reinjure her back.

Thanks for reminding me I should add an update to Baby's condition. I just did that. If Sofi already has a herinated disc, the medication I give Baby may not help her, but please ask your Vet what he thinks.

I am so glad I took out insurance on Baby. Between her back problems and the recent spider bite, my Vet bills are very high. I included a link to my article on her spider bite.

I sincerely hope your Sofi's condition will improve. I know how heartbreaking it can be when our pet is sick or injured.

I hope you will return to let me know how Sofi is getting along.

Kaylee Torres on November 01, 2014:

Hello Mary! Baby is a beautiful little dog! How is she doing? I hope nothing but good things. I am commenting because I too have miniature Schnauzer, her name is Sofi, she also gray colored, and she will turn 5 in February 2015. Baby's personality seems to be exactly like Sofi! She follows my mom everywhere! Always jumping on the couches! And loves playing tug of war!

Unfortunately, I just found out that she has a herniated disc. Today is the third day (11/1/14) and me and my family just don't know what to do. We feel like our only option is to put her to sleep. This is completely heartbreaking for us, and we are distraught. However, it seems that for Baby, she was back to her normal self in a matter of weeks?

Everything just happened so suddenly. Sofi has not been wanting to eat, her barking is to a minimum. (probably less than that). I literally walked her on Tuesday (10/28/14) and everything was fine, nothing out of the ordinary happened on our walk around our neighborhood. I am just so confused on what to do because surgery would be too costly.

Please let me know what your situation with Baby has been after March 2014.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on March 22, 2014:

Hi, pstraubie48 so nice to see you here today! Baby is still on medication to strengthen her bones. We have gone about 6 months now without any reoccurrence of her back problems.

Thank you for your concern (and the angels). My best, Mary

Patricia Scott from North Central Florida on March 21, 2014:

O, Mary I wish I could offer some words of wisdom as to what to do. It is so heartwrenching when our precious animals have afflictions and maladies we cannot fix.

I have suffered horribly with pups and kitties that became incurably ill ...we did all we could do to keep them pain free and on the planet.

You are doing just that and that seems to be the best solution for you for now.

I am sending some special Angels to sweet Baby and to you ps

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on October 15, 2013:

Hi, rebeccamealey. Yes, Baby is a star is many of my articles! She hasn't had an episode of her back problem in about six months now. I keep her on that medication called Zoom, and it has helped her, I think.

Thanks for reading and commenting.

Rebecca Mealey from Northeastern Georgia, USA on October 15, 2013:

Poor Baby. I have seen her in several of your Hubs. I hope she gets OK. Good luck!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on October 13, 2013:

Hi, MsMoneypenny. We do not have such a Vet in our area. I do believe in homeopathic remedies, though. I know they work. I keep Baby on this product Zoom and I curtail her jumping from high places. She has not had any problems with her back now in quite a while, and I am grateful for that. Thanks for reading and commenting. Regards, Mary

MsMoneypenny on October 13, 2013:

Last week my dog all of a sudden couldn't jump on/off beds like he usually does and yelped and trembled. Called the vet and he recommended a homeopathic remedy because he suspected he had Lyme. Couple of days later he stopped yelping and had more spring in his step (wanted to go for a long walk!) but still stiff in the morning and restless- I think he has problems from jumping too. He's 8 years old. Switched to a different homeopathic remedy that matches his symptoms. If you have a truly natural-oriented vet where you are, I suggest you give that a try.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on September 10, 2013:

Hi, Just Ask Susan

I swear by that medication, Zoom! I am taking precautions now not to allow Baby to jump from high places and she doesn't go up the stairs. In fact I moved my bedroom downstairs just to accommodate her. We do anything for our pets, don't we??

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on September 10, 2013:

Hi, sholland10

I am sure the Glucosamine has helped Baby. It's either the med or maybe she just "grew out of it". I am also taking Glucosamine for my bones to strengthen them.

I hope your grand-pup is doing better. I know how it makes you feel when something is wrong with our pets and we are just helpless.

Thanks for the votes and the shares.

Susan Zutautas from Ontario, Canada on September 10, 2013:

Mary, I'm so sorry to hear that your sweet dog has had to go through this. I hope that she feels better soon and that the Zoom works quickly for her.

Susan Holland from Southwest Missouri on September 09, 2013:

Sweet Baby! Mary, she is absolutely gorgeous! I hope all is well with her. Our grand-pup has 2 herniated discs. Right now she is on the vets prescribed meds. Maybe the Glucosamine should be added to her diet once she gets over this second episode.

Very informative. Thanks for sharing! Votes and shares!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on February 18, 2013:

Hi, Maggie Salmons. I am SO sorry you are going through this problem with your schnauzer, too. I never crated Baby, but I have made some adjustments as to her life style, like not allowing her to jump from furniture. I put a bench in front of my bed so she can't jump up and down that.

My Vet prescribed a product named Zoom that has Glucosomine and I swear by that. Supposed to strengthen the bones.

I do wish you the best of luck with your dog. I feel your pain, Mary

Maggie Salmons on February 18, 2013:

My mini schnauzer is just home from the vet with the same problem. I am supposed to crate her for 6 weeks. No car rides, carry her out to pee and poop. no jumping. I am going to do it or Lulu my dog will become worse. I am only into day one of all this. pain meds and an anti imflamatory pill.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on February 10, 2013:

Hi, Dianna Wanamaker. Glad you found my article on canine intervertebral disc disease. I went to your FB page. It's really nice. Baby's back problem seems to be under control now that she is on Glucosomine. I do use caution and not let her jump like she used to do. I have written other articles on canine problems if you would care to read more of them.

Diana Wanamaker on February 10, 2013:


Read over your story, just happened to stumble upon it while I was looking for some new material for my FB page.

If I had something that might help you with your precious family dog, would you be interested in hearing about it?

My Contact Info.

Diana Wanamaker

Wishing your animal family and yourself wellness!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on December 31, 2012:

Hi, Miriam. I am so sorry your dog has this Intervertebral Disc Disease, but I am happy you seem to have it under control. It is a real problem. Baby can just jump a certain way, and down she goes! I really believe in that Glucosamine because Baby has improved 90% since she has been taking that.

I haven't changed Baby's diet: I haven't considered that, but it makes sense.

I appreciate your taking the time to read and comment on my Hub.

Good Luck and I hope your Cocker continues to improve.

Regards, Mary

Miriam on December 30, 2012:

Our 9 years old cocker spaniel just got this back in early November. He had about 3 weeks of strict cage rest, and now we're still on limited exercise. He goes for walks, but absolutely no stairs and no jumping. He's doing very well on glucosamine with chondrotin as well. We were also terrified, and worried we'd have to put him down. But he's doing really well, and adapted to his changed lifestyle. He's still very happy, even if he can't run and fetch like before.

A change in diet has been big for him, too. Plenty of raw bones, meat, fat and eggs. No grains or rice, no fruit and just an occasional carrot for a treat. Lost some weight that way, stopped begging me for food all the time. His brother has benefitted from that diet, too. You'd think it would be more expensive, but it isn't. They can eat all kinds of offal and cast offs butchers will practically give away, and they eat much less. Fat and protein are very satiating; grains and anything with sugar, even natural fruit sugar, make dogs and people hungry again quickly.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on December 22, 2012:

Hi girafee16. Oh, my, you have 4 Miniature Schnauzers? Thank you for reading my Hub about my little dog with IVDD. I did a lot of research on the internet after the Vet told me what she had. There are some good informative pet forums devoted to this disorder that have been helpful.

First of all : I moved the furniture around. She loved to jump down off the back of the couch: I out that against a wall. She would jump up and down off my bed: I put a bench alongside the bed. She is not allowed to run up and down the stairs anymore: I barricaded them.

When Baby had her first episode, I Googled Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease. Try that. The medication that the Vet put her on that is really helping her is called Zoom. It is a soft chew and she loves the taste. It is Glucosamine with Chondrotin Sulfate. It is supposed to help strengthen the bones. Baby has not had an episode now in about 3 months, thank goodness.

I know how it hurts you to see your dog in pain. It would just kill me to see that look in her eyes. There is no doubt the dog is in pain.

Do ask your Vet about that Zoom.

Good luck with this, and again, I am so sorry.

giraffe610 from Edmond, OK on December 22, 2012:

I cried the whole time reading Baby's story. My husband and I just found out yesterday that our 3 year old miniature schnauzer has IVDD. He just was not acting right. He wouldn't jump anymore and when he used the stairs to get up to our bed his back legs would give out. He came in from outside and was shaking so bad. It was not from the cold. When my husband or myself would pick him up he would yelp and cry in pain. We had no idea what was wrong with him. I have never heard of IVDD before. He would also just stand around and our vet said it was to painful to sit. Or he would just lay around. When the vet saw him he felt his whole back and when he got to the bottom he would wince in pain. Then he tried turning his head and there was a spot at the top by his neck that bothered him. Our vet put him on an anti inflammatory and also Tramadol for the pain. We need to bring him back in two weeks to see if the pain medicine was enough to help him get around. If not he said we would need to get an x-ray and maybe try steroids and if that doesn't work talk about surgery. We already know we can't do that because of how expensive it is. We would do anything for him but it really is to expensive. It seems like mini schnauzers and IVDD is nowhere on the internet. I can't find any information. My heart is breaking thinking what could come of his very happy and spoiled life. Polo is our favorite and seriously runs the house. He has the most laid back protective personality. He was our first which made us fall in love with the breed. We have 3 other miniature schnauzers. Where did you find information about your little girl Baby? Is she still doing good? Thank you for sharing your story!! I really hope she stays healthy because I know the heartache you are going through. Or went through.

Andrea and Michael

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2012:

Hi midget38 Thanks for reading and commenting on Baby's back problem. Yes, she is much better now with the medication, and I do try and keep her from jumping which is a real problem.

Tell Cloudy hello from Baby.

Thanks for sharing, Mary

Michelle Liew from Singapore on November 07, 2012:

Sorry for Baby's experience! Hope she is now feeling better and this hasn't acted up again! Thanks for sharing!!! Ishare as well!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on August 30, 2012:

Hi Jaye, how nice to see you! Baby is so much improved now. The Vet put her on Glucosamine/ Chondroitin once a day to help her bones, and I really think it has helped her. We still try and limit her jumping, but it's hard to do. I'm so sorry to hear about your Schnauzer and the problem with the eyes. I do hope this specialist can help, and I look forward to reading your Hubs about the problem.

Goodnight, Mary

Jaye Denman from Deep South, USA on August 30, 2012:

Hi, Mary.... I'm so glad Baby is feeling better. I just found this hub, and it was a relief when I read through the comments and discovered she didn't need surgery.

Although veterinary science now provides treatments for dogs that rival those for humans, I sometimes think both vets and doctors are too quick to suggest surgery. (I say that with the experience of having 18 surgeries in my lifetime, so far!) If a less invasive method will help, why not try it first? Limiting Baby's jumping and stair-climbing may have allowed her disc to heal. I hope she won't have problems with it again. By the way, acupuncture can help back pain in humans and in dogs...something to keep in mind.

My mini Schnauzer girl is currently going through a traumatic ailment with her eyes, and it isn't going to get better, so I can relate to how bad you felt for Baby when she was in pain. We have an appointment to see a veterinary ophthalmologist in a few days, but I've already made up my mind that as long as I can keep her condition from worsening by frequent medication throughout the day (from wake-up until 11pm), I won't agree to surgery. I read several years' worth of posts on an Internet forum about this condition by people who had the surgery done for their pets, most of whom regretted it.

I'm fortunate that my middle-aged fur-baby's regular vet is patient with my stubbornness and tendency to check things out for myself and not always be compliant with her advice. She gives me credit for intelligence, research and loving my dog. (The specialist may not be so lenient, and he will be charging me twice as much!) I've started a hub about my dog's condition and it will probably be a two-part series, as there's so much to describe. I hope to have the first part posted in a few days. It's good "therapy" for me to write it, and it may be helpful to others who encounter what really isn't a rare condition.

Good luck to you and Baby. She's a precious little girl. Aren't schnauzers wonderful?


Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on July 26, 2012:

Hi, leahlefler, Baby is the first miniature schnauzer I've ever had, and I have really enjoyed having her. I refer to her as "Queen of the House". She is just too smart. I swear she can tell time!

Goldens are wonderful breeds too. So sweet and gentle. I don't think they have the health problems schnauzers have.

Thanks for reading and commenting. Mary

Leah Lefler from Western New York on July 26, 2012:

Oh, poor Baby! I love miniature schnauzers - I grew up with them and absolutely love the breed. I am so glad her back has recovered, as it is awful to see your dog in pain. We have a Golden Retriever and absolutely adore him, and I hope he never has to suffer from this!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on July 26, 2012:

Hi, Peggy W Baby has not had an episode with her back in about two months. I had moved the couch so she can't jump off the back of it, and she is not allowed to go up and down the stairs.

I do have pet insurance, thank goodness. I'm a big believer in insurance (may because I sold it at one time). She has flea dermititis but because the flea is a parasite, the insurance won't pay for those vet visits.

When her back would "go out", she just couldn't move, it was very stressful to see her like that. Thanks so much for reading, Mary

Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on July 26, 2012:

So sorry to hear about Baby's problems with her back. In addition to checking with surgeons and neurologists, have you thought about getting pet insurance? Check to see what vets take it first of all and if they do, it could save you a lot of money if Baby eventually needs surgical intervention for her disc problem.

My heart goes out to you because if our pets are hurting, so are we as pet lovers. Up and sharing. Maybe others know of solutions to your problem that have not yet been mentioned. I know that you are doing all you can to make Baby's life happy and pain free.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on March 05, 2012:

Hi, tillsontitan, good to see you again. Thanks for the advice on what to do about Baby. She has been so much better now that we don't allow her to jump up and down on beds, couches, etc. You have a good point about the neuorologist. I'll look into that. Yes, as you know when our dogs are in pain, we are in pain, too. They get the most pitiful expression in their eyes. Thanks for reading and commenting.

Mary Craig from New York on March 05, 2012:

As I think you already know my Min Pin Buzz was diagnosed with IVDD but it turned out he didn't have it but has Immune-mediated inflammatory disk disease. But, I digress. When we thought he had IVDD my vet said surgery was the only option. I did take him to a neurologist who, again as you know, changed the diagnosis. However, I did a lot of research on IVDD and saw many dogs after the surgery who were doing agility! If you can find a neurologist for Baby, take her at least for an opinion. She is a beautiful little dog and I know it hurts you almost as much as her when she has pain.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 08, 2011:

Good Morning, Sueswan! I will email you. Thanks.

That's interestting about the Bordie Collie. I really think that all the grains and preservatives in commercial dog food is contributing to the health problems we see in pets now that were unheard of years ago. I think the same is true of the food WE consume, too. Like the little dog Baily, who is recuperating from bladder stones. She's only 3 yrs. old! In all the years I worked with Dr. Hyatt, a Vet. we never saw a dog with bladder stones! I now cook chicken & rice for Baby because I want to avoid more health problems with her.

I hope you have a wonderful and happy day. (Baby is still sleeping, but I will give her your good wishes)

Sueswan on November 08, 2011:

Good Morning Mary,

Please email me directly with the information with the information you find.

My sister has a Border Collie who suffers from his seizures. He hasn't had one in months since she removed grains from his diet. This was recommended by her vet who practices alternative and conventional medicine.

Here's wishing you and Baby a good day. :-)

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Oh, Sueswan, that was such a nice thing to do. I will definitely go there and see what they say. I have spent a great deal of time on the net finding out more about this problem. It's really more common than I thought. May I email you directly with the info I find?

Sueswan on November 07, 2011:

Hi Mary,

I was telling my sister about baby having Canine Intervertebral Disc Disease. She sent me the following link.

Have a good evening.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Hi Gypsy, you are SO sweet. Thank you for your concern. I was married to a Vet for many years, and he would make a cart for paralyzed dogs so they could learn to get around, and you're right! They did! You have to admire their spunk. It's just so unusual for a Schnauzer to have this disease, the Vet says. Right now she is just on complete rest until the back heals. Always good to see you....

Gypsy Rose Lee from Daytona Beach, Florida on November 07, 2011:

Well unfortunately i'm no help here but my heart does go out to Baby so do let us know what happens. We have a boxer named Grace on our street quite a number of years ago she lost feeling in her hind legs. Her owners made a special chair of wheels and placed her hind end and legs and all in the chair. With her front legs she moves about wheeling the rest of her along. You know that dog hasn't lost her spunk and joy of life. You should see her running toward her gate her strong front legs pulling the chair on wheels. Barks at us as we pass by and I always say Hi, Gracie. Just to let you know dogs can be resilient and she has weathered her handicap just beautifully. Of course she also has loving owners who love her as much as you love Baby. So give Baby a hug and kiss from me and tell her I'll send up a prayer to God.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Hi again, habee, I talked with my Vet this AM. He is strickly against any kind of chirophratic procedure. He says some Vets claim they can do these wonderful things, and sometimes they do more damage than good. At any rate, there are no Vets in my area that do chiropratic work. I did look up the Cox decompression therapy for humans, though. That's interesting...There is no Vet who does acupunture, either. We're just going to work on changing our life style to protect her from reinjuring herself.

Palm City is about 45 N. of West Palm Beach, or about 200 N. North of Miami. It's so small it isn't on a lot of maps. Stuart is on the maps, and we're a surburb of Stuart.

See you again soon......

Holle Abee from Georgia on November 07, 2011:

Morning, Sis. Cox decompression stretches the spine. It's like being placed on the rack. lol. It helped with my neck, but it didn't do much for my lower back.

It's not too cold here. BTW, where is Palm City?

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Good Morning, habee. Good to see you! I've never heard of Cox decompression, I'll do a little research on that. Thanks. I have to make some adjustments in my house so she can't run up and down the stairs, and may have a ramp built for the steps leading into my house. I thought the day would come when I'd have to have a ramp, but NOT for my Baby.

Always good to see you. Bet it's cold in Ga now!

Holle Abee from Georgia on November 07, 2011:

Poor Baby. My ortho surgeon and chiropractor (same office) told me about a dog with back problems that they treated with Cox decompression. The ownerless dog just showed up at their office, barely able to move, and after the treatment, it walked out! Voted you up, Sis.

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Sue: Baby will be happy to know you care!

Sueswan on November 07, 2011:

Good Morning Mary

Say hi to Baby for me and tell her I hope she is feeling better soon. :-)

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Hi lyricwriter: Thanks for your concern and caring. I think that's a good idea to get another Vet's opinion. I spent a lot of time on the net last night researching this problem. The nearest Veterinarian acupuncturist is 150 miles from where I live; I'm leaning more in that direction as of now. I just knew my friends here in Hubland would give me some good advice, thanks. I hope you have a wonderful day!

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 07, 2011:

Good Morning Sueswan! Thanks so much for your concern. I think I have to make some choices. After she gets over this episode, I have to change my house around so she can't be tempted to jump so much. I will probably move to the downstairs bedroom for one thing.

Richard Ricky Hale from West Virginia on November 06, 2011:

I had to vote up and beautiful. She is a doll. Mary, you mentioned surgery earlier in the article, if the chances are a hgih percentage, perhaps that. If it is something they can fix this way, I would chose that. As far as age, she should be fine. I am no surgical expert, nor for dogs, but it would seem to me to be the better move. In my honest opinion, I don't think the others would do much good. I feel so bad for you and Baby. I agree with Sueswan on the valium, but if it helps her pain, then so be it. I would get a second opinion from s vet and see what they say, possible a third. It would be better to have a few different routes from the professionals. Once again, sorry. Mary you're such a sweetheart and caring person. I will keep you both in my prayers.

Sueswan on November 06, 2011:

Hi Mary,

Baby is so sweet.

I would suggest going to a natural vet instead of having her doped up on valium.

Animals pick up on our feelings. Baby doesn't do tricks because they make her happy. She does them because they make you happy.

Take care

Mary Hyatt (author) from Florida on November 06, 2011:

Good Afternoon, friend, Hyphenbird, thank you for your concern. I do appreciate it. See you....

Brenda Barnes from America-Broken But Still Beautiful on November 06, 2011:

Oh, how sweet she is and how your heart must hurt for her. I am so sorry. I have not experienced this so I cannot advise. My love and sympathy is with you both.