I enjoy writing about my experience caring for and living with an Olde English Bulldogge.
The Olde English Bulldogge vs. the Old English Bulldog
When most people think of a bulldog, the Old English Bulldog or even the modern-day English Bulldog is often what comes to mind. Surprisingly, the Old English Bulldog is actually extinct, and the modern-day English Bulldog is what we've come to automatically identify as the classic bulldog with its short stature, boxy body, and heavy wrinkles.
Both of these breeds are commonly confused with the Olde English Bulldogge (OEB), which made its first appearance in the 1970s in the United States. This new breed was in many ways created to capture the traits of the original and extinct Old English Bulldog—the athletic, agile, bull-baiting breed of the 17th century.
Today's Olde English Bulldogge looks dissimilar to its living relative, the English Bulldog, and was choicely named to help distinguish the two.
Olde English Bulldogges are a blend of the following breeds:
- 1/2 English Bulldog
- 1/6th Bullmastiff
- 1/6th American Pit Bull Terrier
- 1/6th American Bulldog
Why Do Olde English Bulldogges Make Great Pets?
Olde English Bulldogges have many great attributes. Compared to other bulldog breeds, they have less of the health issues associated with standard brachycephalic breeds (characterized by a shortened muzzle) and are known for their excellent temperament. Here are some of their positive attributes:
- Good Temperament: They are trustworthy, loyal, protective, and loving.
- Friendly: They do well with other animals and small kids (when socialized and trained early).
- Athletic: They are athletic, hardy, and less sensitive to hot and cold climates compared to other brachycephalics.
- Hypoallergenic: Their coat type and coat dander do not trigger allergies in most sensitive individuals.
- Trainable: They are eager to please and do well when engaged in training activities.
- Good Health: Compared to other breeds, OEBs possess less of the commonly inherited negative bulldog traits (airway issues, hip issues, climate sensitivity, difficult births and breeding).
An Extinct Breed: The History of the Old English Bulldog
The Old English Bulldog is an extinct breed. The breed was created in England around the 1600s or 1700s, and it is the ancestor of many bully breeds that are still around today including the English Bulldog and American Bulldog. Celebrated for its compact, muscular build and its large lower jaw, this strong, courageous, agile, and hardy breed was used for English blood sport and bull baiting in London up until the decline of these activities upon the passing of the Cruelty to Animals Act in 1835. The breed was thought to derive from the Old Mastiff or Alaunt of the 17th century, an ancient breed used in times of war.
Breeding to Extinction
One parent breed, the proper Mastiff, wasn't quick enough for bull baiting, so the Old English Bulldog was blended with the Old English Terrier to create an athletic, fast-acting hybrid. This breed was designated the "Bull and Terrier" and was an early attempt at the Bull Terrier and American pit bull breeds. This development further led to the eventual decline of the Old English Bulldog.
Breeders who appreciated this great, beautiful dog made an effort to breed out some of its aggression. They began to cross remnants of this dog with other breeds in an attempt to select for the temperament and features they wanted; finally, they developed the English Bulldog. Unfortunately, this breed has numerous inherited health issues.
The breeders' goals moving forward should be to create even healthier dogs that are free breathers, free breeders, and free whelpers, meaning that they can breathe with ease, can breed without artificial insemination, and do not need to be delivered via C-sections.
The Appearance of a Standard Olde English Bulldogge
A New Breed: The Olde English Bulldogge
The modern Olde English Bulldogge is essentially a healthier and more active remake of its 17th-century relative. It is a mix of the English Bulldog, American Bulldog, American Pit Bull Terrier, and the Mastiff. All of these breeds were used to selectively achieve the traits and temperament desired. The result: A good-looking and athletic (compared to the English Bulldog) dog with a happy disposition.
David Leavitt and the OEB Association
The Olde English Bulldogge was so named to differentiate it from the modern English Bulldog and is not currently recognized as a breed by the AKC. However, the breed is recognized by the IOEBA (the International Olde English Bulldogge Association). Many, including the AKC, don't consider this dog to be a breed but rather a mix. However, all dogs essentially change and adapt and are bred for certain features over many years. Eventually, they are often recognized as a breed. It would not surprise me if in years to come, the AKC begins to recognize OEBs as a breed.
Breed Evolution and Breeding Standards
In 1971, David Leavitt employed a cattle-breeding model developed by Dr. Fechimer of Ohio State to arrive at an athletic bulldog breed with a similar build and gentler disposition than that of the extinct Old English Bulldog. According to David Leavitt, the OEB does not have the undesired traits of the breed's relatives (difficult births, hip issues, and brachycephalic syndrome). Leavitt is quoted below regarding his breed standards:
"Cesarean section births are not necessary. Artificial insemination, due to male ineptness and lack of drive, has been replaced by natural ties. Life span is over eleven years. All breeding stock have had hip x-rays. No dog with bad hips is bred."
Today, many breeders misleadingly register their designer puppies and dogs for sale as OEBs, even though their breeding program standards may have been compromised.
Olde English Bulldogge Breed Traits and Temperament
- Body Weight: 50-70 pounds (females); 65-85 pounds (males); (Mine weighs in at about 96 pounds!)
- Body Height: 17-19 inches (females); 18-20 inches (males)
- Body Type: Medium-sized to large; wide shoulders, muscular, strong, and athletic
- Muzzle Type: Large and broad; brachycephalic traits but with unrestricted nares; undershot jaw, blocky head
- Temperament: Courageous and stable temperament, enjoys praise; trustworthy, loyal, and protective
- Lifespan: Between 10 to 14 years
- Coat Type: Short
- Trainability: High; eager to please
Video: Living With the Olde English Bulldogge
My Experience Owning a Bulldog
When I'm looking at a new dog, I often do my research online and look at breed descriptions. While those are helpful, I don't just want a list of stats and some generic description. I want to know what it's actually like owning one, and I like to hear from actual owners. For that reason, here's my experience:
- Find a Reputable Breeder: I got mine when he was eight weeks old. He came from a reputable breeder who followed the breed standard and strived to make a better breed, including doing genetic testing for health defects.
- They Are Stubborn: This breed is different from any other kind out there. I have owned mutts, Border Terriers, Rottweilers, and pit bulls, and this breed is a breed of its own. They have a personality of their own and are very strong-headed, bordering on stubborn.
- Train Them Early: This was my first time owning a strong-minded dog, and I probably could have been a stronger owner and a better pack leader with a stronger presence. Despite having taken my dog to two puppy schools, hiring a private trainer, and working with him myself, he's not as well-trained as dogs I've had in the past. I'm largely to blame, though this breed isn't going to be as obedient or timid as a Golden Retriever.
- Be Prepared for Drool: This breed is very slobbery. I'm always surprised when I speak with bulldog owners who tell me their dogs are not slobbery. My dog is extremely slobbery—I think it's the mastiff mix that makes it so.
- Teach Them Manners: Because these dogs are large and strong, that's something to keep in mind for why you want a well-trained dog. Think about going over to someone's house who has a jumpy dog. With a Maltese, it's not a big deal. However, with a 100-pound Olde English Bulldogge, that dog isn't just bouncing off your grandma's ankle—he's taking her to the ground. With that said, you need to be a strong owner, have a well-trained dog, and be in control of your dog.
How to Tell Bulldog Breeds Apart
A Comparison of the Differences in Bulldog Breeds
|Trait||Olde English Bulldogge||English Bulldog||American Bulldog|
50–70 lbs (F); 65–85 lbs (M)
30–50 lbs (maybe 60 lbs)
60–90 lbs (F); 71–119 lbs (M)
17–18 inches (F); 18–20 inches (M)
12–16 inches (F); 12–16 inches (M)
20–24 inches (F); 20–26 inches (M)
Free breeders and free whelpers
C-section with large litters
Heat and Cold Tolerance
The "Classic" English Bulldog Breed Traits and Temperament
The English Bulldog or the classic bulldog breed you are probably familiar with is much different from the OEB. Olde English Bulldogges tend to be a bit healthier, as they are a mix of several breeds and specifically designed to be more active and healthy with less of the traditional health problems English Bulldogs possess.
English Bulldog Traits
- Appearance: Large head, short muzzle (brachycephalic), undershot jaw
- Size: Medium (averaging 50 pounds as adults)
- Body: Stocky, blocky head; short legs
- Wrinkles: Heavy
- Temperament: Gentle, loyal, protective, stubborn
- Notable Traits: Heavy breathers, brachycephalic
- Health Issues: Respiratory, heat and exercise intolerance, dental and pallet malformations, skin and dietary allergies, knee joint and hip complications, reproductive issues and dystocia-prone (difficult birth), cherry eye
The most obvious difference is that the English Bulldog is much smaller and lighter in build and much more sensitive to hot and cold—you can't have them outdoors for long periods of time in extreme temperatures or exercise them as hard. The average cost of ownership of an English Bulldog (in vet fees) is over several thousands of dollars a year. They are very expensive dogs to own and tend to have numerous health issues much like French Bulldogs.
What Is the Difference Between an Olde English Bulldog and an American Bulldog?
Olde English Bulldogges and American Bulldogs are quite similar in appearance, however, the American Bulldog is much larger, taller, and originated in the 1700s. The OEB is a fine breed for beginner owners, whereas the American Bulldog is recommended for experienced owners. Both are great with children, trainable, and loyal; the American Bulldog has a higher tendency to bark, is more energetic, has higher grooming needs, and is not hypoallergenic, whereas the Olde English Bulldogge is hypoallergenic.
Common Health Problems in Bulldog Breeds
In addition to elbow dysplasia, skin allergies, and dietary allergies, these are some of the most common health issues in bulldog breeds:
Canine Hip Dysplasia
Hip dysplasia is the abnormal formation of the hip socket in dogs. In severe cases, it can lead to lameness and arthritis. It is a genetically inherited trait that may be worsened by breed type, weight, activity or inactivity, and trauma and/or associated muscular atrophy.
In the case of canine hip dysplasia, the spherical ball of the femur does not fit into the socket of the pelvis properly; it is either too shallow or loose. The body tries to repair the section by forming cartilage over the site, which leads to inflammation and future abnormalities including degenerative osteoarthritis.
The Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA) oversees hip screenings and classification as does the Penn Hip Improvement Program (PennHIP). Both programs monitor and analyze data collected on the condition via diagnostic radiographic techniques (OFA and PennHIP shots) and a hip grading system. Controlled exercise and rehabilitation, drugs, and surgery are commonly recommended for hip dysplasia depending on case severity.
Bloat or Gastric Dilatation Volvulus (GDV)
Bloat or gastric dilatation and volvulus (GDV) is a medical emergency. This condition occurs acutely in big dogs, whereupon the stomach twists (torsion), occludes major vessels, and fills with gas. This condition puts pressure on the diaphragm and cuts off blood flow to the heart; surrounding tissue may die or rupture. Bloat is a medical emergency and occurs in deep-chested and large breed dogs, especially after heavy exercise or eating.
Brachycephalic Airway Syndrome
Brachycephalic airway syndrome may be mild in Olde English Bulldogges but severe in French Bulldogs and English Bulldogs. The term brachycephalic literally refers to the shortened head or muzzle of these breeds. These dogs have a smaller upper jaw and redundant soft tissue in the skull which leads to an overcrowding of teeth, stenotic nares, an elongated soft palate, saccule issues, heat stroke susceptibility, and exercise intolerance. These breeds are also challenging candidates for surgery and anesthesia.
Cherry eye is a condition of the nictitating membrane (or third eyelid) and is characterized by protrusion of or prolapsed soft tissue of the eye. Surgical intervention or topical anti-inflammatory drugs are often recommended. There are no methods of prevention.
How to Select the Right Dog for Your Lifestyle
Before acquiring a new canine companion, it's important to know what kind of breed you want and what kind of lifestyle you want to live with your pet. If you're looking for a puppy to go on long runs with, the Olde English Bulldogge is not for you. While they are healthy, active, and agile, their body type is just not conducive to long runs. They are a dog you can take to the park and have fun with outdoors in mild weather—not extreme temperatures. They are also great for lounging around the house with.
I hope this article has given you a better idea of the Olde English Bulldogge and whether or not it's the right breed for you!
Claudia Castro on August 21, 2020:
I have a Olde English Bulldog, and he is having problems with his hip.
Aaron on June 14, 2020:
I wish American breeders would stop docking the tails.
Staten on April 14, 2020:
Too many fools on this site thinking the breed won't be fully recognized in the Americas. The breed is flourishing, and it's a good looking dog that already existed. Flourishing means "money".
Bulldogpuppy on January 14, 2020:
I have an old English bulldog and was wondering what is the best type of food for him.
Bulldogelover on December 06, 2019:
We've had 2 pitts an american and a boxer over the years. All were good dogs but the OEB we recently acquired outshines them all. He loves his family and is the most empathetic dog we have ever owned. He is wonderful with all of us but is especially gentle and loving with our youngest son who is special needs.This is balanced by his nonagrressive but prepared attitude when it comes to being a guard dog. He's an easy going pup unless he thinks his family is in danger then he is exactly what we want in that situation. ,ready to do what needs to be done but still obedient to our commands The only drawback with him is he was supposed to be my dog but I think my wife is his favorite followed by the kids but he loves me too so I can live with that.
SS on October 17, 2019:
I just purchased my first OEB for my son. The dog is 31/2 months in age. He has spirts of energy then not intrested in anyone or anything except sleep. is this a normal behavior for the breed
Cole S on May 07, 2019:
The farts from them are toxic but they are playful and perfect for a family they are sweet loyal and protective
Camila K on October 29, 2018:
My olde english bulldog is currently 1 years old. He is a beautiful blue colour with blue eyes and including his head he stands at 29 inches (74cm) and weighs 40kg(80 pounds) so he is very big and yes he is purebred in Europe. Thankfully he had no teething problems and didn’t destroy ANYTHING. We had one vet incident when he ate something he wasn’t meant to and it gave him an allergic reaction but thankfully he is okay now. He is protective ,loyal and stubborn sometimes but when he was younger he was very scared of everything outside but he got over it so it’s okay. I highly recommend OEB.
Perla Rivera on September 14, 2018:
Our OEB Peggy is the best! She was so easy to potty train, which was our main concern as 1st time dog owners. She is a social butterfly our whole neighborhood knows and loves her. Teething was a little hard, she chewed and destroyed 2 sofas 1 love seat and a chair...but we survived. She is much better now. She is our baby and she knows it! Most beautiful blue eyes that makes it hard not to fall in love with her. We might get another dog in the future, definitely another OEB.
Sherri on July 20, 2018:
I rescued mine from a shelter as a puppy, he is now 4 yrs old and weights 127 lbs. He is the most sweetest loyal baby. He was training to be a therapy dog, which he is great at, except he has now decided he doesn’t like children, which we believe is because they are eye level with him and it freaks him out.
Chris on July 17, 2018:
I got mine as a rescue from the pound. He is about 4 1/2 and weighs in st about 80 pounds. Who ever owned him before obviously took time to train him as he is very laid back with children and other dogs. By fsr he is the bestbtrained dog i have ever owned
Mary on June 12, 2018:
We have had Pugs and English Bulldogs. We loved them all. now we have an OEB. He is WONDERFUL. Sweet, protective, funny....
Sid on June 11, 2018:
My OEB was the best first dog for my little ones and for my husband and I. No vet bills at all with him and he became not a house pet but a family member. He watched over my 2 girls,my husband and i in every campout park outing walks he was great sid went every where and was well behaved even when other dogs around him acted out he remain very well behaved. Very loyal and again very protective of all of us. If he saw girls fighting or pretend fighting he run towards them and jump between them always breaking them up.they go to park he go with them both always following them or if he was asked to sit down by slide in park he sit there watching both and always wanting to join them he played with them as if he was a human child too. Sleep time he was there with the girls...like i said well behaved well controlled easy to train and the best and loyal little family member we ever had. I recomend anyone with small kids if considering a breed this is the breed. They are loving loyal easy to maintain and live with you wont regret it. .....we miss our baby and the standard is held and kept high due to our Sid. ...olde english bulldog is the way to go
Jessica on December 29, 2017:
We love our OEB! She is so patient with my children (3 and 5). She is often engaged in games of chase, tug of war and pile on the puppy and she just takes it. She is currently 3 years old and a large girl (75 pounds). She is goofy and quite well-known in our neighborhood as she has a dog door and is often outside when we are at work. We did two dog training classes with her and got my eldest child involved with the training so that the dog would listen to her. I am strongly considering if I want to move forward and get her certified to become a therapy dog. She loves people and the only thing she wants is for everyone to love on her and pet her. I would definitely recommend this breed to anyone who has the time and willingness to properly train.
Mamie Blizzard on November 03, 2017:
Becky on August 06, 2017:
Our OEB is my best friend and protector and has literally saved my life during a cardiac event when I died and he barked and got my husband from the back of the house for me! He is so wonderful that I cannot say enough. You MUST be there for them though as they cannot live without your love and attention. Only get an OEB if you are as devoted as they are! BEST DOG EVER!!!
Cori on June 08, 2017:
I absolutely love my OEB after having to small cockapoos initially, I moved in an area that has some shady areas around in the downtown area of STL. I got my OEB at 8 weeks and I love her too death. She is little stubborn, but would very loving and protective. She is 13 months old born 5/2/16...best girl I got...my baby she is 75 pounds as of April 2017. She has destroyed some shoes and comforters, the latest thing that he destroy was my conch trying to hide A BONE.
Cindy on April 19, 2017:
Ah, Miss Petunia is our sweetie Leavitt OEBD. My bf wanted one for 40 years, but knew his working schedule was too erratic for a buddy who would have to be home alone. For his BD last year, I was able to get "Tuni" for him. I've retired and am home, so at 11 weeks and already 21 pounds, our little girl came home. Yes, she has all the annoyances, but I've found if she lays on her floor bed, instead of my cushy bed, she doesn't snore. She use to turn the air green with her gassy toots, but a small apple, (with only the core removed) daily, has stopped them 99.9percent. This last 2 months she has tooted twice in one night after a reaction to a new dog treat. Yes, stubborn is a reality, but I'm the alpha (dog) so it's worked out. Our biggest problem is the pulling on the leash and I'm STILL working on it and hopeful. Plus, jumping up on us as she's sooo excited to see us. She's the happiest, sweetist, loving lap-puppy, has never chewed on anything serious unless she gets angry at us, usually if we have to ignore her for real reasons that interfere with her immediate needs to play or cuddle. Just like a human kid reacting. She is not a drooler, either. I firmly believe it's food sensitivity and/or allergies that cause this. These observations are my opinions, and maybe you'll try them out of desperation. Especially the toots. Several times I've had to get up in the night to air my room out. The apple was just out of nutrition for a snack after her late afternoon dinner. Within a couple of days, we noticed we weren't gagging during our dinner. We wipe under her eyes every night with a cotton pad in warm water to clean away the salty tears which do irritate the skin. Yes, she requires a bit more maintenance, and does get irritated skin occasionally, another breed problem, which we keep on top of with chlorohexadrine shampoo every couple of weeks. This maintenance is cheaper than going to the Vet. with a huge bill from tests & meds. My advice is to not think that you've trained them & they forgot. They haven't. If you try a treat and give them the same request, they'll do it immediately. An easy test. I don't care that she's a pure bred. The reason she was picked was my bf's request. I love a happy dog who is good natured and loving, minds well and she does seem to knowvher "Mom" can't play too rough or go on more than a mile walk. She treats her "Dad" differently at play and expects certain things from him that she doesn't with me. Her understanding of "things" is amaxing. i.e. barking at her reflection in the pellet stove glass and wouldn't quit barking until I showed her our reflection in a regular mirror and back to the stove. She understood. Wow! Most people think she's a) a pitbull (yeah, I don't get that one) or b) a boxer. That's when I explain the cross of her breed way back when with another extinct dog, the German Bullenbeiser (sp?) to create the boxer. These are amaxing buddies and friends. I'm richer for having her in my life and she has made my bf even sweeter (which I didn't think could happen). She's a big girl at 18" & 78 lbs. A beautiful brindle with a perfect tri-color heart in her pure white "collar" on her right side. We're sooo lucky to have been able to get her from a couple who have both parents and were going to breed them later on, but, oops! Everyone, enjoy one of the greatest buddies and family member around!
. She is very SMART and funny.
Jeremy on February 15, 2017:
Every dog came from the Wolf so there is really no such thing as a Pure Breed.
BullyPower on December 18, 2016:
My bulldog is the most caring and loyal dog I have ever had. She follows me everywhere, gets sulky if I leave for too long (even if there are other people with her), and loves her daily walks, to the point were she starts whining, when I tell her 'you want to go for a walk girl'?
When it comes to other dogs, she is not very friendly and is very protective of our house (we have to be very careful to not let her get lose as she will attack other dogs, at the vet or pet store though, she never gets territorial). She seems to have been this way ever since we adopted her and we haven't been able to get her to be less aggressive with other dogs (owners had told us she didn't get along with other female dogs).
The owners before us, also told us that they hardly walked her. So when I first started to walk her, she was borderline un-walkable. Now, She's been tamed a bit, but she still tries to set the pace for walks sometimes and she's very stubborn (example, if I deviate from our usual route she will stop and refuse to walk... she'll shoot me a look, like we should have crossed the street dummy. haha, when she does this I tell her in a stern voice no and she agrees to continue walking and stops throwing the tantrum).
I love this dog to death, even though she does some very annoying things, haha.
Kim on December 11, 2016:
My OEB is now 10 years old. I love this breed. So loyal and loving. Kind to animals and everybody he meets. He is 113 pounds. Broke down with a wide chest. I do not recommend this breed for a weak person. They are super strong. My dog is needy. Always at my side. He snores loud also. I think it is the greatest dog around. If you are wanting a good dog that has a big heart this is the breed.
David on October 12, 2016:
I had one and he was the best dog ever. He was tied to a tree pretty much all his life before we got him orange and white. Only problem was because he was bound to a tree, he was a runner.
MAC on May 13, 2016:
I have 2 OEB, both females and sisters. They just turned 3 in april. From the day we got them I fell in love and they are really great dogs. They will be up for play time all the time and can veg out on the sofa as well. love going for walks (helps get some of their energy out) but as most have said they are stubborn. One of ours is notorious for having selecting hearing like she doesn't hear us calling her name or will just look at you and be like "yeah I'm not ready to come in yet hooman". The couch thing is inevitable as these dogs love to be by your side, it's like they have to be and you cant say no to their faces. My girls are the best cuddlers compared to other dogs I have had in the past or been around. They just don't get tired of it. Disciplining them was fairly easy we had no issues with chewing or destroying things as we got them proper toys and used "no" so they got the hang of it pretty quickly. Used kennel training and they even put themselves in time out sometimes if let's say they got a hold of your dinner. As far as health is concerned we have had no major issues except minor skin issues with one of them and we can't quite pin point the cause. They snore pretty loudly but the vet said they are find and have no obstructions to be concerned about. For the most part they are well behaved but need work on their manners as they love people and other dogs and get excited and jump or introduce themselves too quickly. Wish we would have been more proactive in this area so I suggest focusing on this behavioral problem early because they can knock smaller children over or the elderly. They are excellent watch dogs and very loyal. They are definitely good looking dogs and People are constantly stopping to admire them and ask about their breed. The only thing I would say is if you don't have time for this breed do not consider because they really love attention and just being by your side. They are used to our regular work schedule but we can have busy weekends sometimes and you can sense they get very depressed when we are not home enough for them. Like I said before if they don't have a bone to chew on they are either looking for you or right by your side. All in all they are quite the characters but what i love most about this breed is how much they love.
t on May 13, 2016:
I have a mix of EB and OEB and its the best dog I have ever had. She is mellow most of the time but likes to play and go for walks. Great with our three young kids. She is a 70 pound lap dog. Wants to sit next to you or sleep next to you. At first I tried to keep her off the furniture but like others have said very stubborn. Once I came to the conclusion that I have a lap dog I gave in. Good watch dog barks when someone comes to door but great with kids and people.
M on April 22, 2016:
Mine and my husband's OEB is the most loving and trainable dog I've had. I had an EB for 14 years and I will always consider her my baby. I don't regret having her, she was very healthy for an EB, but it is liberating not to constantly worry that the AC will go out and she may die in the house or if we've walked too far for me to bring her back safely. I don't think I trained her as well as our OEB because I couldn't take her out as much. She physically did not have the same opportunities as our OEB has.
Our OEB is a year old, he's been through 5 classes at our dog school and is on track for becoming a therapy dog. He absolutely LOVES people and other dogs. In fact, he's generally the neutral dog that our trainers ask to use as a buddy for dogs who need socialization. He's extremely playful, social, and energetic--most of the time to a fault. We've had to do a ton of impulse control work with him, so that he understands that he has to wait to be social. He's great, but I don't know if I would suggest the breed for anyone who is used to having a low energy dog or is not home a lot. These dogs need a lot of attention, training, and honestly a job to do--at least ours does. They are fabulous dogs though, but like any dog, you really have to see what works for your lifestyle and personality. EBs are great for seniors and very low energy (and probably rich, because they do require very proactive vetting) families. You'll do great with an OEB if you don't mind an 80 lb lap dog who drools and who wants to be the best host ever, even if he's not in your home.
Bill Smith on March 30, 2016:
I had an English Bulldog that I got cheap because the dealer said he was too tall and he had some pink on his nose. He could run like any other dog, swim and was the most lovable dog I've ever had. He lived for twelve years and died peacefully shortly after the love of his life, an old dachshund (Gidget) passed away at the age of eighteen. The vet said it looked like a case of a broken heart to him. I know this is not possible but who knows? Any way I still miss old Bentley.
Jeff on March 29, 2016:
I have a 7.5 year old Olde. My first dog, but he stole my heart the moment i picked him up at 6 weeks old. He can be stubborn, but he is never out of sight from me. He loves to play, and gets along well with other dogs so long as the other dog is mellow. I had an American Bulldog who sadly just passed at only 5.5 years, they never fought, never an issue between the two. I love the breed, he just comes off as too friendly to people, but make a move too quickly in my family's direction, and he becomes a beast. I love my boy, and hopefully he lives to be a old old dog, can't imagine the day when he leaves me physically.
jorge villa on March 25, 2016:
who cares about been recognize is a great dog people
Doug schott on March 18, 2016:
just put my betty away she was 14 years old loved the grands she loved people as long as we was around but put the fear of God in people she didnt trust but wasnt mean just watched them close loved kids she was one of a kind have 2 more females one plays wont liston the other alot like betty
Douglas on March 14, 2016:
I wanted to know if the females are good watch dogs? They look impressive as the males, and are they are tolerant with kids.
Gail on August 23, 2015:
Hi I'm getting ready to buy an OEB / american bulldog what's you'll option in this
Erica on August 20, 2015:
I love my OEB I've had him for 6 years and he's great with my kids and 3 other dogs! Yes, slobber everywhere but he is the protector of the house and although he looks fierce.. He is a gentle giant... He's 75 lbs, he is very well trained but very protective. Everyone inquires about him all the time. His only health issue has been head tremors which have only happened twice!
tracy on July 26, 2015:
hi whats your facebook page called. weve just recently got a 11 week old olde english male pup
Neil Gerrard on April 15, 2015:
I have a OEB he is a great dog snores for Britain I have had other bull breeds mainly Stafford shire Bulls. The OBE has a great temperment with people and shows no aggression to other dogs.he is very stubborn but extremely intelligent.
I live in England in the nw I have never seen another OEB.every where I go with my dog I get stopped and asked about him and his breed.
I would not recommend a OEB to some one who has no dog experience but if you are used to bull breeds You won't go wrong with a OEB
Joey on April 10, 2015:
Becca, thanks for sharing your experience. Yes OEB's are a breed of their own. I've owned a number of dogs over the years and my OEB is totally different and unique from any other in terms of behavior and everything.
I hear people say its not a recognized breed...to that I say who cares... how many people actually participate in shows or stud their dog out...almost none so what does it matter if you have that piece of paper and do nothing with it.
Also OEB's are much healthier than English Bulldogs which was an important part in my decision.
Becca on April 09, 2015:
I have an OEB who just turned 3. She is the best, most loyal, most affectionate but also most stubborn dog in the world. But I wouldn't trade her for anything. Where I'm from, we haven't run into any other OEB's nor do people know what her breed is. I'm sure they will become more popular in time. And if I'm not mistaken, didn't the AKC accept them as a breed beginning in April of 2014?
kathi on January 18, 2015:
We have a 10 month old female. She's been the best dog I've ever had! I've owned Shepherd...St. Bernard. ..Bernese and Black Labs. She's smart, sensitive but not whimpy, loving, mellow when you want or can play at top speed for hours straight. Everyone that meets her wants a puppy from her. Beautiful blue ribbon line blue white w reverse brindle.
Kenya on July 20, 2014:
We have an OEB that is almost 2. The breeder let her sit on the couch and although she was 3 months old when we brought her own, she never forgot. She is stubborn and determined. When we took her to school she refused to participate. As a former Lab owner, we didn't do a great job being disciplinarians. She is gorgeous and has the greatest form. We had a scare because she knocked over a little kid, she won't stop jumping. And advice?
daphne on May 20, 2014:
Of course the AKC will not recognize this dog: its bulldog is a Frankenstein that does not even follow the AKC mission statement of "breeding for the betterment of the breed." There is no way it is the best interest of a breed to make it so physically disproportionate that it can neither copulate nor give birth without human medical intervention. If the AKC admitted the Olde English, then their bulldog would pale in comparison and drop in numbers. But I am glad the AKC will not admit it. When the Neo was accepted, its numbers in rescues doubled in a short time. We should be thankful the AKC ignores these dogs.
Love my dog on January 27, 2014:
I too originally wanted an EB but instead choose the OEB as I wanted a healthier and more active dog. I am completely thrilled with my decision, My dog is energetic friendly and incredibly loving, however he can be stubborn so you must be firm and consistent with this breed... also make sure you research the breeder well. .. there are a lOt of poor breeders out there who unfortunately give the oebs a bad rap.
debordel on April 12, 2013:
All I can say is I love my OEB's. I was initially going to buy an English bulldog but after researching, I'm so glad I chose the OEB's. They are by far the best pets I have ever owned and extremely healthy, no issues. I've noticed lately that more people realize what they are when out with them. Glad to know the breed (yes, the BREED) is getting recognized. My prediction is that we will see more OEB's and less EB's in coming years.
Glenn on March 22, 2013:
Most, sorry. And ioeba olde will never be recognised as a pure breed dog, if you mix a napolitian and a french bulldog, you can register it as an olde in the ioeba.if you mix and victorian bulldog with a alfa blue bulldog you can register as olde.when they stop this .and wait 20 generation, maybe....if you buy and leavitt olde, they have been breeding pure for 20-30 generation, and is very close to beeing and recognised breed.. I own and ioeba olde,,,,