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The Differences Between a Siberian and a Quality Siberian

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What are the differences between a Siberian and a quality Siberian?

What are the differences between a Siberian and a quality Siberian?

What Is a Quality Siberian?

A quality Siberian is one that adheres to the AKC breed standard. The dog does not have to be a champion show dog. It does not even have to carry champion lines. Some breeders do breed quality Siberians and do not have the means to show their dogs.

Dog shows are an expensive hobby that not everyone can afford. Therefore, lack of a champion title does not necessarily determine whether the dog is not of quality. To determine the quality of your Siberian, you can read and compare it to the breed standard.

Here are some examples of the differences between show and pet quality Siberians.

Tux, my Siberian, at seven months old, exhibiting correct head, tail, and coat.

Tux, my Siberian, at seven months old, exhibiting correct head, tail, and coat.

Siberian Eye Color

I have heard the question many times at dog shows from people gazing at the contestant dogs: "Why doesn't my husky look like that?" The answer is simple. Quality!

Many people do not educate themselves on their dog's breed before acquiring a puppy. They just look things up as they go along. Many people also do not want to spend the kind of money a quality, responsible breeder will ask for his or her dogs. Instead, some will go for the cheapest dog.

Another deciding factor (which I feel is ill-informed) is the eye color. Many people will only take a blue-eyed Siberian. The fact is, a very large percentage of quality Siberians are brown-eyed or have bi-colored eyes. From experience, and from talking to other handlers, it has become clear that in fact, judges will usually pick a brown or bi-eyed dog over a blue-eyed one. Likewise, a quality breeder will breed for the temperament, health, and conformation of the puppies. Eye color will be the last thing that comes to mind.

General Appearance

Please note, the following paragraph and every part of the breed standard has been directly quoted from "The Complete Dog Book 20th Edition," an official AKC publication. Siberian Husky, pages 330–334.

The Siberian Husky is a medium-sized working dog, quick and light on his feet and free and graceful in action. His moderately compact and well furred body, erect ears and brush tail suggest his Northern heritage. His characteristic gait is smooth and seemingly effortless. He performs his original function in harness most capably, carrying a light load at a moderate speed over great distances. His body proportions and form reflect this basic balance of power, speed and endurance. The males of the Siberian Husky breed are masculine but never coarse; the bitches are feminine but without weakness of structure. In proper condition, with muscle firm and well developed, the Siberian Husky does not carry excess weight.

Size Really Does Matter!

Size, Proportion, Substance.

  • Height: Dogs, 21 to 23½ inches at the withers. Bitches, 20 to 22 inches at the withers.
  • Weight: Dogs, 45 to 60 pounds. Bitches, 35 to 50 pounds. Weight is in proportion to height. The measurements mentioned above represent the extreme height and weight limits with no preference given to either extreme. Any appearance of excessive bone or weight should be penalized. In profile, the length of the body from the point of the shoulder to the rear point of the croup is slightly longer than the height of the body from the ground to the top of the withers.
  • Disqualification: Dogs over 23½ inches and bitches over 22 inches.

If your Siberian is over these height requirements, he or she is not of show quality. I've had people say that a big Siberian is what they want. Upon hearing this, I usually suggest they find a reputable Malamute breeder, as a reputable Siberian breeder will not breed for extra large dogs.

A Siberian showing excellent headset.

A Siberian showing excellent headset.

The Head

  • Expression is keen, but friendly, interested, and even mischievous.
  • Eyes are almond shaped, moderately spaced, and set a trifle obliquely. Eyes may be brown or blue in color, one of each, or parti-colored. Faults: Eyes set too obliquely or too close together.
  • Ears are of medium size, triangular in shape, close-fitting, and set high on the head. They are thick, well-furred, slightly arched at the back, and strongly erect with slightly rounded tips pointing straight up. Faults: Ears too large in proportion to the head, too wide set, or not strongly erect.
  • Skull is of medium size and in proportion to the body, slightly rounded on top, and tapering from the widest point to the eyes. Faults: Head clumsy or heavy or too finely chiseled.
  • Stop is well-defined, and the bridge of the nose is straight from the stop to the tip. Fault: Insufficient stop.
  • Muzzle is of medium length, that is, the distance from the tip of the nose to the stop is equal to the distance from the stop to the occiput. The muzzle is of medium width, tapering gradually to the nose, with the tip neither pointed nor square. Faults: Muzzle either too snipy or too coarse, too short, or too long.
  • Nose is black in gray, tan, or black dogs and liver in copper dogs. May be flesh-colored in pure white dogs. The pink-streaked "snow nose" is acceptable.
  • Lips are well pigmented and close-fitting.
  • Teeth close in a scissors bite. Fault: Any bite other than scissors.

Some of the most noticeable of these are the ears, stop, muzzle, and teeth.

Coat Variations

  • Neck is medium in length, arched, and carried proudly erect when the dog is standing. When moving at a trot, the neck is extended so that the head is carried slightly forward. Faults: Neck too short and thick or too long.
  • Chest is deep and strong but not too broad, with the deepest point being just behind and level with the elbows. The ribs are well-sprung from the spine but flattened on the sides to allow for freedom of action. Faults: Chest too broad, "barrel ribs," ribs too flat or weak.
  • Back is straight and strong, with a level topline from withers to croup. It is of medium length, neither cobby nor slack from excessive length. The loin is taut and lean, narrower than the rib cage, and with a slight tuck-up. The croup slopes away from the spine at an angle but never so steeply as to restrict the rearward thrust of the hind legs. Faults: Weak or slack back, roached back, or sloping topline.
  • Tail is well-furred of fox-brush shape is set just below the level of the topline. It is usually carried over the back in a graceful sickle curve when the dog is at attention. When carried up, the tail does not curl to either side of the body, nor does it snap flat against the back. A trailing tail is normal for the dog when in repose. Hair on the tail is of medium length and approximately the same length on top, sides, and bottom, giving the appearance of a round brush. Faults: A snapped or tightly curled tail, a highly plumed tail, or a tail set too low or too high.
  • Coat is double and medium in length, giving a well-furred appearance, but is never so long as to obscure the clean-cut outline of the dog. The undercoat is soft, dense, and of sufficient length to support the outer coat. The guard hairs of the outer coat are straight and somewhat smooth lying, never harsh or standing straight off from the body. It should be noted that the absence of the undercoat during the shedding season is normal. Trimming of whiskers and fur between the toes and around the feet to present a neater appearance is permissible. Trimming the fur on any other part of the dog is not to be condoned and should be severely penalized. Faults: Long, rough, or shaggy coat, texture too harsh or too silky, or trimming of the coat, except as permitted above.

Coat Elaboration

The Siberian has three main coat lengths: short, plush, and wooly. Only the plush is breed standard, while wooly and short are not of quality. A wooly-coated Siberian has a much thicker undercoat and much longer hair. This coat type hides the shape of the dog, which is why it is a disqualification. While woolies make adorable pets, they are not quality Siberians.

Forequarters and Hindquarters

  • Shoulder blades are well laid-back. The upper arm angles slightly backward from the point of the shoulder to the elbow and is never perpendicular to the ground. The muscles and ligaments holding the shoulder to the rib cage are firm and well-developed. Faults: Straight or loose.
  • Forelegs are moderately spaced, parallel, and straight when the dog is standing and viewed from the front, with the elbows close to the body and turned neither in nor out. Viewed from the side, pasterns are slightly slanted, with the pastern joint strong but flexible. Bone is substantial but never heavy. Length of the leg from elbow to ground is slightly more than the distance from the elbow to the top of withers. Dewclaws on forelegs may be removed. Faults: Weak pasterns, too-heavy bone, too narrow, or too wide in the front, or out at the elbows.
  • Feet are oval in shape but not long. The paws are medium in size, compact, and well-furred between the toes and pads. The pads are tough and thickly cushioned. The paws neither turn in nor out when the dog is in natural stance. Faults: Soft or splayed toes, paws too large and clumsy, too small and delicate, or toeing in or out.
  • Hindquarters are moderately spaced and parallel when the dog is standing and viewed from the rear. The upper thighs are well-muscled and powerful, the stifles well-bent, and the hock joint well-defined and set low to the ground. Dewclaws, if any, are to be removed. Faults: Straight stifles, cow-hocks, too narrow or too wide in the rear.


The Siberian Husky's characteristic gait is smooth and seemingly effortless. He is quick and light on his feet, and when in the show ring, should be gaited on a loose lead at a moderately fast trot, exhibiting good reach in the forequarters and good drive in the hindquarters.

When viewed from the front to rear while moving at a walk, the Siberian Husky does not single-track, but as the speed increases, the legs gradually angle inward until the pads are falling on a line directly under the longitudinal center of the body. As the pad marks converge, the forelegs and hind legs are carried straightforward, with neither elbows nor stifles turned in or out. Each hind leg moves in the path of the foreleg on the same side. While the dog is gaiting, the topline remains firm and level.

Faults: Short, prancing, or choppy gait; lumbering or rolling gait; crossing or crabbing.


The characteristic temperament of the Siberian Husky is friendly and gentle but also alert and outgoing. He does not display the possessive qualities of the guard dog, nor is he overly suspicious of strangers or aggressive with other dogs. Some measure of reserve and dignity may be expected in the mature dog. His intelligence, tractability, and eager disposition make him an agreeable companion and willing worker.


All colors from black to pure white are allowed. A variety of markings on the head is common, including many striking patterns not found in other breeds. There is no disqualification for color, so long as it is not that of another breed (i.e., the dog is a mix).

Tux at eight weeks of age, just before picking him up from his breeder. He is showing correct movement, headset, tail set, and build.

Tux at eight weeks of age, just before picking him up from his breeder. He is showing correct movement, headset, tail set, and build.

Tux at four months of age. His ears and legs have outgrown him and his adult coat has not come in yet.

Tux at four months of age. His ears and legs have outgrown him and his adult coat has not come in yet.

When Show Quality Is Evident

Another comment I hear is, "My puppy had show potential when I picked him up, and his parents are show-quality. He carries champion lines. But now he's roughly four months of age and doesn't look like he will be of breed quality. Why is this?"

Not only is this a frequently asked question, but I've gone through this myself.

Siberian puppies exhibiting show potential as a pup are likely to keep that potential as an adult. However, Siberians do go through an awkward growing stage between 3–5 months of age. Their ears out-grow their body, as do their legs. Also, they have not grown their adult coat in and have the short puppy coat with them still. They will normally appear "lanky" because they have not developed their muscles fully. Above are a few pictures of Tux, a show-quality male that I own. At the top of this article, you can see that Tux grew back into his true show-quality nature.

The Siberian Husky Is a Strong and Elegant Dog

The most important breed characteristics of the Siberian Husky are medium size, moderate bone, well-balanced proportions, ease and freedom of movement, proper coat, pleasing head and ears, correct tail, and good disposition. Any appearance of excessive bone or weight, constricted or clumsy gait, or long, rough coat should be penalized.

The Siberian Husky never appears so heavy or coarse as to suggest a freighting animal, nor is he so light and fragile as to suggest a sprint-racing animal. In both sexes, the Siberian Husky gives the appearance of being capable of great endurance. In addition to the faults already noted, the obvious structural faults common to all breeds are as undesirable in the Siberian Husky as in any other breed, even though they are not specifically mentioned herein.

© 2009 Cowgirl0216


Ranveer singh on May 23, 2020:

I have 7 month old husky puppy but its tail not curl

Goku03 on December 25, 2019:

Did you ever breed your dog in Miami?

Moby Donigian on October 18, 2019:

Referring to Kaida, please do not be confused, there is not a single fox-dog hybrid nor will there ever be.

Kaida on September 06, 2019:

Tux is a beautiful dog, however, he resembles a long haired shepherd/Siberian mix. His legs are heavier boned and fur is longer and thicker than a traditional Siberian. The akc standard for female Siberian’s has gotten taller since the breed first came into this country in the 1920’s. They were also interbred with Malamutes to make a faster smaller than a Malamute sled dog more suitable to Alaskan terrain, but more compliant than the rather mean spirited Malamute - forgive me for speaking the truth here Malamute lovers. Both breeds originally came from Siberia, but a pure bred Siberian Husky is older and is a pure strain of ancient wolf ancestry. All other dog breeds are descendants of the modern wolf, fox and jackal. The Siberian Husky is truly unique in this trait.

Jax on May 21, 2019:

Honestly, I can't wait until dog shows are shut down, permanently. Not only are they fixed events, but they are toxic and ruin good working lines through over breeding and breeding purely for appearance.

JayS_CT on February 12, 2019:

Add my voice to the ignorance of this article. There is a vast difference between what the AKC has come to accept over many years of breeding huskies down in size vs. what huskies were intended to be, a northern breed working dog meant to pull sleds through snow. And it is not totally the AKCs fault (but is partially). It is the Breed's National club that sets the standard, the AKC only adheres to that. Think I'm misleading you, call the AKC and ask who controls the breed standard. There are many many quality huskies who resemble their breeds original traits, with beautiful eyes, beautiful coats, being bred by responsible breeders. Want more proof, think that flat nose of pugs, etc is the "natural and quality" trait of the original breed.. check back.

People who think that a standard arbitrarily set by an organization means quality have less knowledge about the breed then they pretend to have.

Want to do something good for dogs? Stop transfiguring them so that they can live in an apartment especially for a breed that is meant to pull a sled in the arctic. Think your definition of "Quality" would hold up to that hard environment or being part of a pack meant to work at pulling a sled across a frozen tundra?? Guess again..

Phabulous1 on January 19, 2019:

I agree with Travis. Tux looks somewhat like a mix of some other; not at all full Siberian Husky.

Travis on January 16, 2019:

I think your dreaming im sorry but tux looks imbread to me not a traditional husky

Heidi Lovett on January 03, 2019:

YES, WOW!!! Great information, now I have a better understanding on a few things I was confused on; for example the coat. All the coats are beautiful and can be registered but some will be disqualified in the show ring, like the wooly coat. Even though AKC recognizes them as a "pure breed" they don't allow them in the show pen only the "show pet". Thank You

HuskyLove on December 12, 2018:

Wow.. The writer of this article is completely ignorant on what quality means. What they know is looks. I find the owners of husky show dogs to be very uneducated. Viewers should look for information elsewhere. I mean... Since you want to TRY to bash people with actual quality huskies... Let me tell you, Tux does not even look like good show husky. I've seen prettier huskies from backyard breeders. Tbh, show dogs are really not (quality) Siberian Huskies. A quality husky is one that is bred to be a working dog, to pull sleds for hundreds of miles in gruesome temperatures. Not to trot around a show rink. Huskies need to be slim, muscular, have great endurance, and bare a coat that protects them in fierce temperatures to be a quality husky bred for its intended purpose. That is a QUALITY husky. Show huskies are really the low quality ones. They tend to be overweight, have little endurance, bare fluffy coats which are not as good at protecting them from the cold, and do not have proper training to be used for their intended purpose. All they have is looks. They require MUCH less training then a working husky! I mean lets be real, QUALITY refers to something that is well made for a intended purpose. You can't say you have a quality butcher knife if you have a steak knife! What you have is a knife. Though it may very well be a good knife it is still not used for the same purpose as a butcher knife. THAT IS QUALITY! So if a siberian husky which is bred to be a working sled dog is just pretty, overweight, and has no endurance it is in fact not a quality siberian husky. It may be pretty but the steak knife could have wooden handles and look nice. It still does not make it a quality butcher knife. Get your nose out of the air. Mindy, the lady you met at the dog park is ignorant as well. The tail is not supposed to (curl) over it's back. The tail is supposed to be in a sickle shape. Only curved. The fact that she purchased it from a shelter and her opinion on the tail proves hers is the one that's not the purebred and that she is uneducated on the bred as well. Your husky sounds like it is the bred standard on the tail. Hers was not. If he came with AKC papers then he IS a purebred husky. Hers IS NOT. People are getting offended by this bc for one it's false information and two the writer is judging a book by it's cover. A cover can be beautiful and it still not be a good book. Get the drift?

Mindy on November 05, 2018:

Some lady at the dog park today had a shelter rescue Husky. I bought my male, black and white, blue eyed Siberian Husky from a local breeder. He came with AKC papers and his first round of immunizations. He was born on june 28 making him 18 weeks old. We just finished all of his puppy shots and the vet went ahead and gave him his rabies vaccination. The husky at the dog parks tail curled up. Rocky's tail hardly curls at all. It's not even curled at all most of the time. The lady made a comment saying (his tail doesn't curl, what's he mixed with)? I informed her that he is a purebred with AKC papers. She acted like i was lying or that i was jipped because his tail does not curl.

Daniel on October 21, 2018:

The writer of this article is a moron

Jake on September 20, 2018:

Quality? All Siberians are quality

Helga Malone on July 14, 2018:

I have an AKC Siberian Husky. She isn’t overweight at all, but she’s 80 lbs. She has quiet the following on an app called musically.. (BaltaBear) she doesn’t have a curled tail , but she is fully pure bred. This makes it sound like she doesn’t follow the Siberian Husky slandereds, which I know she doesn’t. We got her from a very nice breeder , that bred their huskies a maximum of three times before retirement.... so I know there’s no defect but why is she so big ?

Elena Hernandez on July 02, 2018:

I have 2 siberian huskies, neither are AKC or show dogs but well loved and in great shape. This is interesting information and I do not think the author is trying to insult anyone/dog by writing but instead talking about the standers of show worthy dogs. And the wooly dogs are no good, they may be good pets and should not be destroyed because of their coat but as they are less durable they should not be encouraged to breed. No one wants a dog who suffers in the hot and cold, especially when the proper coat makes this dog incredible durable in both heat and extreme cold. Both my dogs do very well in the hot hot hot summer when it gets to be 100+ degrees out and many other dogs are having a hard time. I love these dogs for that specific quality- I know they are not suffering when it is hot or when it is cold. They are happy and healthy in all places in all temps

Alonzo on June 16, 2018:

My Siberian Husky has all the characteristics expect for height she's a bit short, Is this okay or is she not quality, because her sister has parti-colored eyes but has the same height as her she the both just turned an year old on May 15th

Adopt Don’t Shop on May 13, 2018:

Breeding in general is not a reputable industry. All dogs deserve the same treatment regardless of their appearance. Want to talk about quality in a dog? How about dogs without a myriad of defects and health issues from inbreeding and over breeding to keep the “breed standard”? The mutt is the only quality dog and thankfully there are people in this world that think show dogs and champion blood lines are a b.s. money making ploy from an inhumane industry of breeding sentient beings for financial gain.

Molly on January 20, 2018:

The standard for the Siberian Husky states only one disqualification, and that is for height. A woolly coat is absolutely NOT a disqualifcation. It is a fault.

Susweca55 on August 25, 2017:

And ... The cost for my puppy, although I've spent a few $1000 on him since, was a 60 pound bag of grain free top quality venison based dog food. Absolutely the best investment I've ever made lol Though hes not a purebred or a show dog, I have people even yell from cars about how beautiful he is. He walks like a prince, and he looks like one, too.

Susweca55 on August 25, 2017:

I can understand show "standards," but as my dog is a mixed breed of 80 % Siberian, 15% timber Wolf, and 5% Malamute, I don't find any of his qualities "faults" or "undesirable." Human beings have done a lot of meddling in canine genetics that have been to the detriment of the species. I got my pup from a backyard breeder who is a family friend and all I cared about was the quality of his personality and his character and his friendliness and ability to be socialized around people and other dogs. He has a short coat and his tail doesn't curl because of his Wolf heritage but he is flawless, superior in so many ways, and without "fault" because he's one of the best companions I've ever had in my life which, in my opinion, should be the priority in choosing a dog of any breed .

Robertkellas on July 29, 2017:

My 4 month old female keeps raming things what seems to be on purpose. Nike will run towards you and will ram the couch with her feet or chest while staring at you. It seems like a playful challenge. Is this normal or should I be concerned and try to stop the behavior?

Nessy91 on April 18, 2017:

To put it (hopefully) a bit more kindly, because a wooly coat in Siberians makes them more prone to overheating in warmer weather and less resistant to the snow of colder climates, which is what the dog was bred for. Breed Standards are meant to be a tool to select which dogs will produce pups that will perform the best in what a particular breed was bred for. As such a wooly coated Siberian would perform less well than a standard coated one in the task they were bred to do.

Though it is worth noting that wholly coated Siberians can be as excellent a pet dog or service/therapy dog as they're standard coated peers. NO DOG should ever be destroyed for failure to meet breed standards, simply spayed or neutered so as to prevent perpetuating a weakness in the breed.

KCM1234 on December 16, 2016:

Why not siberian? Because it goes against what they are bred to do. It is not compatible with their original function, and why the breed exists--mushing. You will not see wooly coat dogs running the Iditarod because the coat is not suited for the job. It will not hold up in -60 degree F conditions. It will form ice crystals in the coat and be detrimental to the dog. The dog would not survive in it's original habitat. Do not flaunt your ignorance as if it is something to be admired. Research or keep your mouth shut. You are not an authority to decide what is acceptable in the breed standard. It was in place long before you were born and much work was put into it. Form follows Function. SMH.

BTaylor on June 07, 2016:

How pretentious can you get? As the owner of a wooly coat Siberian, I do not understand why there cannot be a separate grouping to prevent breeders from killing these beautiful dogs. We cannot go anywhere with her without someone commenting on how beautiful she is. Woolys are a better looking dog that your "standard". The wooly coat Siberian story is unknown to most and incredibly sad. There is a long hair dachshund breed. Why not a Siberian?

Rhonda Gilbert on March 15, 2016:

how can I attach a photo?

Rhonda Gilbert on March 15, 2016:

have a look at my Siberian husky x Australian cattle dog. How lovely he is. He is the most amazing dog in the world. The other day I went to the shops not knowing I had accidentally let me out of the house. 2klms away I was standing at bakers delight getting my bread and I felt a wet nose on my leg. It was my husky who must have followed me there. I hope he took the path and not the road. also when he was a pup I had two work men come to the door and demand lunch because Doug ate all their lunches including their fruit.

katy on January 12, 2016:

hi, can i get your email? i want to send you some picture of my husky. i want you to determine if my husky is in good qualification. keep in touch thank you best regards

Willow on September 09, 2015:

This is a great article. The people who take offense at terms such as "pet" or "quality" are always going to be pissy about something. They don't get it and never will. Thanks for including the AKC standard and for writing an informative blog. I've owned both show quality Sibes and pet quality and they are a delightful breed. Nonetheless, I learned a lot from reading so I thank you very much.

Lizzie on August 25, 2015:

This article was very long winded .

I came here looking for a short answer of what the difference was between a quality Siberian and a Siberian husky.(I thought they were different breeds )but my conclusion of this is they are not different breeds not even different types of dog just some ones idea of a show dog!

Mary on July 06, 2015:

Please, do look up pictures of Balto. Then you'll know what a purebred Siberian Husky REALLY looks like......

Elsa on June 15, 2015:

If we want to be honest, the only purebred dogs were those of the Chukchi people who actually started the breed. We cannot even begin to speculate what happened during the time it took those Alaskan traders to bring the Chukchi dog(as it was called at first) from Siberia to Alaska and then to the rest of the world. Who knows what kind of mixes took place along the way. I would just like to point out that according to records that reach all the way back to 1908-when the first team of Siberian Huskies reached Alaska and in 1930 the USA-the dogs adressed as "pet quality" are actually much closer to the dogs the Chukchi people used to breed, which are, as a matter of fact, the only ones that we can adress as purebred without a shadow of a doubt.

Nobody says that wanting to "better" the breed is bad. As a matter of fact, having a standard and breeding according to it might help reduce the dogs sold through puppy mills. However, it is-at the very least-rude to pin a label of "low" or "pet" quality to a dog just because he isn't being trotted aroud a ring.

If we want to be partial and honest, the initial purpose of the Chukchi Dog, the reason it was bred for, was to pull sleds and be a companion to humans. Why don't we judge the quality, just how "purebred" a dog is according to whether he achieves the initial purpose it was bred for? If that were the case, then the sled dogs many look down uppon would be the ones considered "purebred." Let's just watch it a bit with the labels. But these are just my thoughts...........

Stephen on April 21, 2015:

Well said show stopper.

Mya Husky on November 01, 2014:

So Mya the husky is a beautiful dog that grabs lot of attention when going on are walks. My favorite thing about Mya is her soft coat. She's 4 years old and still so soft like a pillow.

How do I look for another husky with this amazing fur? I never come across many Huskies that look or fell like her.

So my question do quality huskies have amazing soft fur as adults?

Working Sibes on August 30, 2014:

Togo was 1/4 Malamute? He only weighed 49 lbs and his parents were imported from Siberia. How could he have had any Malamute mix in him? That's just absurd.

Kim on December 26, 2013:

My husky is a rescue dog, supposingly show quality. However, the previous owner over fed her and did not give exercise. She is now pudgy and her hind legs are not so good and she's a little shorter than most huskies ive seen. She's 10 months now. I don't really care if she is show or not show, the reason why I'm here is because Im curious to know what is the ideal size of a husky (i.e. is she too fat or too short etc)

dom on August 17, 2013:

just curious... if you breed champion show dog to champion show dog, do all of them turn out to be 'quality siberians'?

sj on July 28, 2013:

You have no idea what you are talking about.

alex on July 19, 2013:

i like all the improper dogs better

the other ones look too thick

and i like the longer mouth its looks more rugged intelligent and over all more wild.


Maribel on April 02, 2013:

My siberian husky is a rescue dog, he has brown eyes and I love him, it's true so many people like blue eyes

frebu on March 18, 2013:

Am I the only one that thinks the pet quality example for tail form( is the best looking dog on the page?

ShowStopper on October 30, 2012:

^^^LOL at this person (who, based on the language, sounds like the author getting offended that someone stomped all over their article). Not only are you lashing out over a very reasonable and plausible response, you are coming off as incredibly uneducated about Siberians and dogs in general, and the way you look down your nose at dogs NOT bred for the show ring is blatantly evident.

But the part that cracked me up the most was all that ridiculous touting of show dogs because they need a lot of training, I guess in rebuttal to part about trotting their fat asses around the ring, because ALL THIS TRAINING makes them better than sled dogs or something. I've been in the breed ring with Pugs, Akitas, and everything in between, and the very idea that they need an excessive amount of training to show and finish their championship is laughable. Most of our dogs are ready to go inside of a week or two, maybe more if the dog had no leash training or socialization whatsoever. Some of the dogs are only handed off to us right before we enter the ring. Any dogs we campaign as a special don't get any extra training either, they just spend enough time in the ring that they know the drill. While I've never been around or trained a sled dog in my life, I am CERTAIN it requires a little more than learning how to look at food, stand still, and trot around merrily.

I might also add that most show dogs are expected to be a little fatter than a well tuned working dog. We even call it "show dog fat" when a dog is in that type of condition. Compared to a Siberian that's bred and raised to pull a sled, it's completely night and day. One is fluffed and fed and pampered and probably air conditioned, and the other is... not.

That's not to say there aren't any that do both. Plenty of breeders have both show dogs and racing sled dogs. Some show their sled dogs. Some race their show dogs. (Forgetting the snide reference to working dogs here, "A show dog can be a working dog but a working dog will never be a show dog??? What kind of ass backwards logic is that?) But while there are certainly plenty of sled dogs that could just as easily be paraded around a show ring, the point that you seem to be missing is that a Siberian that doesn't look like a show dog is still capable of being a quality dog, and it doesn't make him some backyard bred mutt with poor bloodlines. In fact, the mixed breeding you referred to hose are referred to Alaskan Huskies, NOT Siberian Huskies (this is what leads me to believe you aren't as educated on Siberians as you pretend to be). Most Siberian breeders who are breeding purely for sledding are still breeding purebred, REGISTERED dogs.

As for quality, apples to oranges, but I think suggesting that a Sibe can only be judged by their fluffy coat and the shape of their head is incredibly misguided. Even suggesting that anything else is "pet" quality is a bit rude. A working dog certainly isn't a PET, nor do they offer them as such. However, telling someone that their dog isn't bred by a "quality" breeder because the hair is wrong, the shape of the head is wrong, or the dog isn't fat enough IS ignorant (and no, that filled out look doesn't come from muscle, it comes from FAT. canine physiology 101). Suggesting that anything other than a dog that looks like it just stepped out of the show ring is "pet" quality and didn't come from a responsible breeder is complete hogwash. I don't know if you're getting this, because you have this preconceived notion that show dogs are so much better than any other kind of dog.

Take it from someone who has actually been in a breed ring, many many times: Breed standards to not equate to quality. They equate to a dog that won a beauty pageant. There's really nothing terribly special about a dog that spent hours on a grooming table being brushed and fluffed. They're just a lot of smoke and mirrors. They are bred to move at a set speed at the end of the leash, their hocks slip so they can fling their back legs around inefficiently when they move, and their front toes point in so that they always walk into a free stack straight. I call them Show Dog Feet. Many times bigger boned breeds are given to weak knees as well, and aren't NEARLY as straight off their toes as they should be. They like to call this "flex" but there's flex that allows the dog to move without jarring his bones, and then there's FLEX which makes me think he used to stand on his heels as a puppy. It's just a nice word for weakened knee structure. In the case of Siberians, their tails don't even curl over their back (no seriously, do you even know what "sickle tail" means???). At any rate, they aren't bred to be quality. They're bred to win, with a generic show dog winning look, and in the end, that's all that matters.

On the contrary, a working dog has brains, agility, speed, endurance, and isn't just bred to be healthy and sound because it's a responsible thing to do, they're bred that way because they HAVE to be. This is why a lot of breeders try to put titles on their show dogs, to prove that they can do something other than stand and trot. But I'm going to drill this home, because in an effort to get all butt hurt about someone's opinion of a poorly worded article you completely missed the point that was being made: Just because a dog doesn't adhere to beauty pageant standards doesn't mean it's not a quality dog and that someone shouldn't be proud, nay, excited to own such a dog. A quality Siberian could very well have a shorter coat, a refined head, and a lean body. As long as it is structurally correct, sound, healthy, and free from erratic temperamental problems, then there is a chance they came from a very good set of dogs and a very respectable breeder, and when obtaining a dog, knowing more about things that are ACTUALLY the difference between quality and crappola is going to go a lot farther than winning a beauty contest.

By the way, an interesting tidbit regarding those stoppy heads and full fluffy coats that seem to denote so much "quality", you should probably know that it's an inbred genetic trait that comes from a single dog in Siberian bloodlines named Togo. Togo, as it happens, was 1/4 Alaskan Malamute. They added him to the stud book so that his hair and bone could lend to the Siberians a bit of endurance. At the time I don't think anyone expected him to become the standard for all Siberian Huskies, but there you have it. The fluffy uniformly colored show dogs go back to Togo AT LEAST 8 times, although it's probably more like 16-20, as it doubles every time a new generation of litters is born (think white tiger here). Even the sled dogs go back to him at least 3 or 4 times. Because of this many breeders who are still breeding working Sibes are making a huge effort to move away from the inbred Siberian-Malamute mixes that have polluted the accepted "look" of what was once a very unique group of dogs.

And just to prove I'm not making any of this crap up, I'll provide some lovely reading material:

And an example of a different kind of breeder, maybe to open your eyes a little bit:

Get off your high horse on June 20, 2012:

Mushtastic it sounds like you need to do your research. This article is about breed standard, not work line dogs. If you weren't so busy sticking your nose in the air you would realize the huge difference between a working line bred dog and a dog bred to standards. Show dogs can be working dogs but working dogs won't ever be show dogs.

Many working line dogs especially northern breeds that are used for racing are more often then not mixed with other breeds to achieve better results.

Show dogs are about preserving the breed standard so a husky is not forgotten to back yard breeders and mixes. People who breed show line dogs are usually breeding to better the breed not fill it with "fat slobs".

Also if you actually had a clue you would know how much training, dedication and attention it takes from a dog to even go through a show ring let alone title in it. I would hardly call these dogs fat slobs since they need to be in peak shape to deal with being in a show ring.

This article is very well written and really hits the point people are missing. Buy your dog from someone who cares about bettering the breed, not a quick cheap dollar.

ps. the author never said owing a pet quality dog is a bad thing so don't get so mad! :) People who don't intend to show, breed, or compete don't need a quality right? I mean who cares if there millions of ill-bred dogs in the world!

Sibe on June 18, 2012:

Mushtastic you just made my day!

Mushtastic on May 24, 2012:

This article is a joke. While it's true that there are many, many VERY poorly bred Siberians out there that have VERY poor structural integrity, using an AKC show ring as a standard for "quality breeding" is a show of complete ignorance.

Do some REAL research into Siberian Huskies before spouting off garbage like this. Just because a dog was bred to LOOK PRETTY in a show ring does not make it a better quality dog than one that was bred to do what they have been doing for thousands of years, some of which look very little like your skewed definition of "quality" bred dogs.

A QUALITY Siberian Husky can pull a sled over hundreds of miles of snow, not trot its fat ass around a show ring, and that has NOTHING to do with how PRETTY a dog is, how plushy and soft the coat is, nor do they carry an excess amount of weight. They are long, lean, an muscular. Their coats are OFTEN shorter than typical show dogs. If you actually had ANY clue about Siberians, you would see that the red dog you so generously called a "pet" is, while a tad on the thin side (obviously a young dog), FAR more structurally correct than the fat slob from the show ring. If you can't recognize structural soundness, all the fluffy coats and layers of fat in the world aren't going to make a dog any more QUALITY than the dog that will be working well past ten years of age.

People who really want to know if their dogs are WELL BRED need to learn about what makes a dog structurally correct so that they know they're getting a sound dog, not how to make the dog's coat more fluffy.

maggie c. on March 12, 2012:

Just wanted to know if anyone knows whether or not it is bad for a full white sibe to not have his thick coat at 9-10 months?

Eternal Evolution from kentucky on July 09, 2011:

Great info. Our husky was a re-home and is a pet quality. I don't have much info. about his past but I suspect he is from a back yard breeder. He is none the less a good dog but does not display the correct breed standard. Again great hub and info.

Cowgirl0216 (author) on July 26, 2010:

Some Siberians do not carry their tail over their backs. As long as your Siberian's tail does not curl and touch his/her back, that is a good thing!

carolyn pogue on May 20, 2010:

my siberian husky tail does not curl over her back when she is at attention. what does that mean? it doesn't curl at all.